[Truthsayer]

The Anderson Cooper segment from last night on the Harry R Bostick pardon fiasco is online and tonight Cooper will have a followup story.

Bostick was the one who had 3 DUIs and then was DRUNK DRIVING AGAIN when he was involved in an accident on 278 last October. Charity Smith, 18, was killed in the accident and her sister was injured. Miss Smith's Mother was interviewed by CNN and could barely maintain her composure. Bostick was pardoned by Barbour for the 3rd DUI while awaiting revocation.
Go look at the CNN video story- last night when it was on the teevee I couldn't watch it and when I went online today to see it I had to pause several times. Terrible, terrible situation.

[Kris]

More good news~~

http://nmisscommento...e-wreg-memphis/

[Truthsayer]

Let's see iffen CNN, NYTimes, Reuters, Huffington Post, etc follow up on the pardoneers that went up on the sex charges??? One of them that Barbour pardoned was convicted for 'illiciting a minor for prostitution' or some such... it's on the list- go look.
Way to go, Haley!!! All the high profile murderers and drunk drivers are waaaay past bad enough, but how about all the predators??? Nobody in the mainstream media seems to be willing to talk about them. Haven't heard anything out of Jim 'Enis' Hood talking about them either.


tag/ Mississippi Pardons
tag/ Haley Barbour
tag/ Jim Hood
tag/ Mississippi Attorney General
tag/ perverted justice

[Truthsayer]

Thom Geiger, on 14 January 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

http://www.wcbi.com/...urPardons_3.pdf

When I looked at the whole list of felons, one thing I noticed was the number of men who were pardoned for crimes of violence against women. I think that reveals a disturbing side of Barbour's psyche that bothers me a lot. Is the governor married? If he is, has anyone interviewed his wife about what she thinks of her husband unconditionally pardoning so many men who perpetrated heinous crimes against women?

Thom

Thom,
Mrs Barbour probably has a better idea than anyone else on the planet of exactly the sort of pig slime her husband is and she's probably frightened to death of him.

Heinous crimes against women??? That's pretty bad, but what about the crimes against children???
Go look at the list and focus on the ones that have to do with the sex charges- things like cyberstalking, enticing a minor for prostitution.... that sort of thing.

Within the last day or so a thread on a forum popped up about the pardon fiasco. The site that the thread is on is called RigorousIntution dot ca. While looking at that site in the General Discussion Forum I came across a thread entitled something like Pedophile something or the other-this thread will be on the 1st or 2nd page. They talk about the Sandusky/Penn State scandal and SEVERAL other child sex-ring scandals. There are links to numerous newspaper and other media sources regarding additional child porn/child sex abuse stories. One of the folks posted a law enforcement map that red pings these child sex abuse/porn cases all over the country. Mississippi has so many that the pings cover other pings. It's unbelievable. This thread is so disturbing that I had to stop reading after only a half dozen pages and my stomach still hurts and is in knots.
Please go look at this stuff and tell us what you think iffen you don't mind.

Back to the pardons.... why would anyone pardon a bunch of child sex-freaks??? What the Hell is going on???
Just around this area in the past few years there have been many, many child predator stories in the news, one latest being that Noel Everett Sumrall-the guy with the 7 footlockers of porn including child porn confiscated during the search of his residence.
I don't think these child porn/child predator people engaging in all this horrid behavior are just one here, one there.... they're all over the place. There has to be some connection, some sort of underground ring. I can't come up with any other explanation.

Most of the folks here are reasonable, rational, intelligent, law abiding normal people.
What do yall think???

edit to include related CTalks link...
CHILD PORN FREAKS

[Thom Geiger]

I didn't know HB had pardoned anyone who committed sex crimes against children. I guess I assumed it was common sense that that would be, in itself, indefensible and not even Barbour would be that stupid. As for the frequency of the charge about CP, I would never try to defend anyone who does that kind of thing, but what I do know is that what LE, and I include everybody from the FBI to locals in that, calls CP is not a set-in-concrete, definitive, uniform description.

I don't know if it's happened on the local level, and by local I mean anything and everything from the Jackson
PD to every one horse burg in the state, but I do know it's happened on the federal level that the definition can include something such as viewing (which means the image is auto stored in numerous places on the computer) one of those notorious "slips" images of a 17 year old Miley Cyrus.

The charge is, and has been, known to be used to leverage a plea from a suspect who was actually wanted on other charges the feds couldn't prove. Chances are, and some people will bristle at this, that if a person looks hard enough on just about any average computer (caches, depending on settings, can store thousands of images), a determined fed can find at least one image that fits an "expanded" definition of CP to include a person 17 years of age.

Remember the black & white baby on the old rug photos that were popular in the 40s and 50s. Under the current "unexpanded" definition, the actual legal definition not normally used to threaten people, those photos are defined as CP. I hate to admit this but my own mother once had one of those photos of me and another of my sister as infants. If I had stored those photos on my computer, I would be guilty of possessing CP.

Also unfortunately, when a defendant goes to trial and the evidence is presented at trial, juries are instructed to follow the letter of the law. Few juries, when faced with the current definition of CP will find a person harboring any baby on the rug photos, even of themselves as infants, innocent. Jury nullification in CP cases are very rare, extremely rare in fact.

Remember the stories of parents prosecuted for bathtub photos of their kids, turned in by photo processors at the Jiffy Photo drive-thrus? Those weren't fairy tales. And that doesn't even speak to genuine clothing optional parents and families. Remember them too? That was a big movement in the 60s and 70s, but LE has driven most to vacations in Mexico and other countries. And those groups and parents are very guarded about not bringing photos of their vacations into the country. Photos of topless beaches can, if one inadvertently snaps the wrong backgrounds, net a vacationer a lengthy prison term.

I know as well, maybe even better than most about child abusers. Having lived in many children's homes and orphanages in the 50s and 60s, I'm aware of a world that existed before background checks and offender web sites. I know things that can happen when there are no controls and no oversight and no accountability. So I have no pity for child abusers. In fact, child abusers are pervert bullies of the worst sort. I have zero tolerance for bullies of any kind, but esp. not for child abusers.

I also don't like a trumped charge being used to leverage a suspect because Barney Fife can't find enough evidence to convict on a different real charge. Remember the McMartin preschool case (here)? IMO, it cheapens the reality of the real offense. The real deal is horrendous and as hard core evil as a human can get.

I don't know if the rash of arrests and charges and perp walks in MS is because of the use of an "expanded" definition of the charge or a real, genuine, bona fide phenomena of the real thing. Even the guy who is arrested for looking at a Miley Cyrus image from Google's image archive never gets to see the image shown to the general public. None of the images shown in a trial are made public. I don't know. What I hear is LE, from the locals to the feds saying to the public "trust us". This is the same LE at the federal level who are spending a million dollars to try and get a 23 year old British citizen extradited to the US for building a web page with links to other web pages they say stored illegal copies of music and movies.

In the Kim Dotcom case in NZ, the most Kim could get for copyright infringement is a $15,000 fine under NZ law. If he is extradited to the US (the feds are in NZ now trying to get him on a plane to the US) he faces a combined 55 years in federal prison.

I'm sorry but I have a hard time just accepting more and more of what LE, esp. on the federal level, puts out to the press on cases involving anything related to technology. I've said it for 30 years. If you sit by and let your fellow union members, LEOs, fire fighters, bank tellers, plumbers, doctors, educators, etc blah blah blah abuse and misuse accusations and charges in ways not intended by law, policy, procedure and so on, then you drink from the same bowl.

I've seen a lot of people, more and more people being set free because of advances in DNA and forensics, and many of those people ended up in prison because of trumped up charges and abuse of "expanded" offenses, such as whistling at white women or the current default "failure to obey a police officer".

Like I said, I'm very familiar with child abuse on a personal level. I put bullies in the same boat with child abusers and have no tolerance for either one. Or their enablers, who are, IMO, as guilty as the abusers. There are most likely people out there who many (now) adult victims would like to catch up to. Before he passed away, I had a chance to have a pointed one-on-one with an abusive teacher I had had in school. He denied doing what he did, but I convinced him I was dead serious about wanting an answer from him about why he did the things he did. He only told me he didn't know why. The man was a respected retired educator, but somebody had to know what he was doing was wrong, but no one confronted him or tried to stop him. God forbid I meet any of those people today. It won't end well.

Thom

[Truthsayer]

Well. Maybe the accusations against people tripping up on pictures of this Miley girl who splashes herself around the teevee and internet in what I would characterize as an unbecoming fashion are just a smokescreen. Maybe people likewise sometimes charged with child porn are just innocent parents taking innocent photos of the kids for nothing more than memory's sake. I'm not talking about that.
What I am trying to address is the fact that obviously and blatantly there are people out there in the sinister and seemingly organized bizzsness of exploiting and abusing children to whatever end they can get away with. And if this child porn/abuse organized underworld ring exists on the level that many suspect, what the HELL???

Whether or not anyone reading here has any personal experience with an abuser, we can at least actualize and identify people of that sort and bring the issue to the attention of any and every caring person out there. This issue is a shameful, sinful, immoral reality that no ordinary person wants to even have to address, but that doesn't take away from the fact that there are people in our midst that participate in crimes of a sexual nature against children.
Why did Haley Barbour pardon these people??? Why does the mainstream and most local media turn these reports into a 5 second/minute non-events rather than making the public via the airwaves aware that there is an epidemic of serious child abuse going on all over this country???

[Truthsayer]

Several briefs have been filed with regard to the PardonGateFiasco including one by Mr Barbour, more briefs should be available fairly soon. The North Mississippi Commentator website has the documents available.
Not seeing anything so far in the media nor in court documents that addresses the child porn/abuse connection.
Yall watch.... the predator pardon cases will fall by the wayside. Sandusky and his ilk, those skool freaks in California, that creep who's accused of killing his own children after setting his house ablaze and his father (both implicated in the disappearance of the mother of the kids), the religiously cloaked predators, the Finders.... all of them will skate by just like they always have and Mississippi will follow suit.
There seems to be some organized crime network whose sole purpose is to exploit children and they have been getting away with this crap for a very long time.
Not long ago, some sort of scandal broke wherein some people were accused of hacking into a child porn site that hosted advertizers selling child pornography... the hackers allegedly posted the names of people who had purchased child porn on their credit cards.
What's really going on here??? More importantly, what's to be done???

[Truthsayer]

Hokay. Has anyone read the PardonGate briefs??? Specifically, Jim Hood's??? Hood goes on like a maniac picking nits over the '30 day notice'....
This 30 day notice of pardon was added in 1890. Back in 1890 there were very few daily news publications in the entire State. Many rural areas had newspapers that published every week or twice per month. ALSO AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, there were many rural areas that had newspapers or newsletters that only published ONCE A MONTH. That's how and why the '30 day' notification came to be settled upon, IMHO.
No matter if the local paper pubbed out once a month, twice a month, once a week, or every day each publication in each county or municipality, town, bump in the road would be able to publish the pardon notification to the public as required by law.

Hood is an idiot of the highest order and is grasping to say the least.

tag/ Jim Hood
tag/ barbour pardons
tag/ Haley Barbour
tag/ Mississippi pardons
tag/ PardonGate
tag/ Tom Fortner

[Truthsayer]

Did anyone watch the live feed of the hearing today??? The video is getting put up on either the North Mississippi Commentator website or the Jackson Jambalaya blog-lots of good commentary. And of course there's always the YouTube.

Jim Hood did an awful, embarrassing job of presenting his 'arguments' and was disrespectful to the Justices and opposing counsel. He came off like nothing more than a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest.
Hood can only be described as sick, self-serving, and self-promoting. Not to mention the fact that he's made Mississippi the laughing stock of the entire Nation. Hero for the people??? I think not.
HERO TO ZERO.... hey, there's a song in there somewhere..................

[Truthsayer]

Did anyone read the editorial in The McComb Enterprise-Journal about David Gatlin and the PardonGate Fiasco???

Make you go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Who's on the Parole Board??? Seriously, who are these people???

[Truthsayer]

The plot thickens.... now Jim Hood is trying to promote himself as sumbody pertecting the chillun from predators.
He damn sure is-look it up, folks.

It's not gonna fly, Mr Hood, not for a second.

Haven't heard one peep out of Hood regarding the pardons handed out by Barbour to them accused and convicted predators.

Maybe Hood just isn't paying attention, or is he????????

Damage control, it's all about damage control, right Mr Hood???

[Truthsayer]

The pardons are valid. The SC opinion can be found at the NMissCommentor website... it's 77 pages long....

Haven't had time to study it yet, only read through it once. Has anyone else read it???

[Sky]

Miss. Supreme Court rules Barbour pardons valid
By HOLBROOK MOHR | Associated Press – 3 hrs ago


JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — The Mississippi Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the pardons issued by former Gov. Haley Barbour during his final days in office, including those of four convicted killers and a robber who had worked at the Governor's Mansion.

Barbour, a Republican who once considered running for president, pardoned 198 people before finishing his second term Jan. 10. Most of the people pardoned had served their sentences years ago, but crime victims were outraged and created a furor that lasted for weeks.

Democratic Attorney General Jim Hood challenged the pardons based on the argument that many of them didn't follow a requirement in the state Constitution to publish notices in newspapers for 30 days.

In their 6-3 opinion, the Mississippi Supreme Court wrote "we are compelled to hold that — in each of the cases before us — it fell to the governor alone to decide whether the Constitution's publication requirement was met." The court also said it couldn't overturn the pardons because of the Constitution's separation of powers of the different branches of government.

"In this decision, the Supreme Court has reaffirmed more than a century of settled law in our state. But this was not only about the power of the pardon or even the power of the office, but about the ability of a governor to grant mercy," Barbour said in a statement.

The Supreme Court's ruling hit crime victims hard.

"I hope Haley Barbour and the Supreme Court justices can sleep at night," said Joann Martin, a probation officer from Fort Worth, Texas, whose sister was killed by one of the pardoned trusties.

She thanked Hood for trying to send the killer back to jail.

"God has the final say and that's all I have to say about it," she said.

Hood said in a statement that he will pursue an initiative to amend the Constitution "to make it very clear that the judicial branch is responsible for enforcing the 30-day notification period in the future" and called on victims groups, law enforcement and other volunteers to help obtain signatures to put a measure on the ballot.

"We do respect the decision of the court, but feel deeply for how it must weigh on the victims and their families. It is these victims and family members who have lost today and the criminals who have won," Hood said.

"As Supreme Court Justice Mike Randolph wrote in his dissent, which was supported by Chief Justice William Waller and Justice Randy Pierce: 'Today's decision is a stunning victory for some lawless convicted felons, and an immeasurable loss for the law-abiding citizens of our State.'"

Barbour's statement said he understands "the natural feelings of victims and their families" and recognizes that pardons are generally unpopular.

"Nevertheless, these were decisions based on repentance, rehabilitation, and redemption, leading to forgiveness and the right defined and given by the state constitution to the governor to offer such people a second chance," he said.

Of those pardoned, 10 were incarcerated at the time. Others just wanted to clear their names or have their rights restored.

The five former Governor's Mansion trusties had already been released on their pardons by the time Hood persuaded a lower court judge to issue a restraining order. The order kept five other inmates in prison and required the trusties to check in every 24 hours and show up for court hearings. One of the trusties, however, Joseph Ozment moved to Laramie, Wyo., and refused to come back.

Ozment's attorney, Robert Moxley, said Thursday his client felt like "he wasn't really free until today."

"I asked him if he could do a cartwheel and he said he's too old. But he sure is pleased that it is all over. He has a very humanistic outlook on it. He said it was hard on the victims' families, it was hard on the offenders' families, but he hopes everyone can just go on with their lives," Moxley said.

Mississippi Department of Corrections spokeswoman Tara Booth said the inmates who had been held on the temporary restraining order will be released 48 hours after law enforcement and prosecutors are notified in the county where they were convicted.

The ruling left some crime victims speechless.

"I just really haven't absorbed it yet," said Randy Walker, who was shot in the head in 1993 by one of the trusties. That former inmate, David Gatlin, also fatally shot his own estranged wife as she held the couple's baby. Walker and the woman were friends.

Hood had hoped to invalidate the trusties' pardons and about 165 others, who he said didn't properly publish their notices. Hood contended that if ads weren't run in daily papers every day for 30 days, or weekly newspapers once a week for five weeks, the pardons weren't valid.

In the end, a majority of the Supreme Court said it was up to the governor to decide if the pardoned inmates did what they were supposed to do. In addition to the pardons issued in his final days in office, Barbour also granted medical release and conditional clemency to some inmates, but they weren't required to give public notice of their release.

___

[Truthsayer]

Sky, on 08 March 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

Miss. Supreme Court rules Barbour pardons valid
By HOLBROOK MOHR | Associated Press – 3 hrs ago


JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — The Mississippi Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the pardons issued by former Gov. Haley Barbour during his final days in office, including those of four convicted killers and a robber who had worked at the Governor's Mansion.

Barbour, a Republican who once considered running for president, pardoned 198 people before finishing his second term Jan. 10. Most of the people pardoned had served their sentences years ago, but crime victims were outraged and created a furor that lasted for weeks.

Democratic Attorney General Jim Hood challenged the pardons based on the argument that many of them didn't follow a requirement in the state Constitution to publish notices in newspapers for 30 days.

In their 6-3 opinion, the Mississippi Supreme Court wrote "we are compelled to hold that — in each of the cases before us — it fell to the governor alone to decide whether the Constitution's publication requirement was met." The court also said it couldn't overturn the pardons because of the Constitution's separation of powers of the different branches of government.

"In this decision, the Supreme Court has reaffirmed more than a century of settled law in our state. But this was not only about the power of the pardon or even the power of the office, but about the ability of a governor to grant mercy," Barbour said in a statement.

The Supreme Court's ruling hit crime victims hard.

"I hope Haley Barbour and the Supreme Court justices can sleep at night," said Joann Martin, a probation officer from Fort Worth, Texas, whose sister was killed by one of the pardoned trusties.

She thanked Hood for trying to send the killer back to jail.

"God has the final say and that's all I have to say about it," she said.

Hood said in a statement that he will pursue an initiative to amend the Constitution "to make it very clear that the judicial branch is responsible for enforcing the 30-day notification period in the future" and called on victims groups, law enforcement and other volunteers to help obtain signatures to put a measure on the ballot.

"We do respect the decision of the court, but feel deeply for how it must weigh on the victims and their families. It is these victims and family members who have lost today and the criminals who have won," Hood said.

"As Supreme Court Justice Mike Randolph wrote in his dissent, which was supported by Chief Justice William Waller and Justice Randy Pierce: 'Today's decision is a stunning victory for some lawless convicted felons, and an immeasurable loss for the law-abiding citizens of our State.'"

Barbour's statement said he understands "the natural feelings of victims and their families" and recognizes that pardons are generally unpopular.

"Nevertheless, these were decisions based on repentance, rehabilitation, and redemption, leading to forgiveness and the right defined and given by the state constitution to the governor to offer such people a second chance," he said.

Of those pardoned, 10 were incarcerated at the time. Others just wanted to clear their names or have their rights restored.

The five former Governor's Mansion trusties had already been released on their pardons by the time Hood persuaded a lower court judge to issue a restraining order. The order kept five other inmates in prison and required the trusties to check in every 24 hours and show up for court hearings. One of the trusties, however, Joseph Ozment moved to Laramie, Wyo., and refused to come back.

Ozment's attorney, Robert Moxley, said Thursday his client felt like "he wasn't really free until today."

"I asked him if he could do a cartwheel and he said he's too old. But he sure is pleased that it is all over. He has a very humanistic outlook on it. He said it was hard on the victims' families, it was hard on the offenders' families, but he hopes everyone can just go on with their lives," Moxley said.

Mississippi Department of Corrections spokeswoman Tara Booth said the inmates who had been held on the temporary restraining order will be released 48 hours after law enforcement and prosecutors are notified in the county where they were convicted.

The ruling left some crime victims speechless.

"I just really haven't absorbed it yet," said Randy Walker, who was shot in the head in 1993 by one of the trusties. That former inmate, David Gatlin, also fatally shot his own estranged wife as she held the couple's baby. Walker and the woman were friends.

Hood had hoped to invalidate the trusties' pardons and about 165 others, who he said didn't properly publish their notices. Hood contended that if ads weren't run in daily papers every day for 30 days, or weekly newspapers once a week for five weeks, the pardons weren't valid.

In the end, a majority of the Supreme Court said it was up to the governor to decide if the pardoned inmates did what they were supposed to do. In addition to the pardons issued in his final days in office, Barbour also granted medical release and conditional clemency to some inmates, but they weren't required to give public notice of their release.

___

The pardons are valid.
Jim Hood took this issue and tried to make political hay in a self-promoting effort. Hood doesn't give a shit about the victims of the crimes.
Iffen he did, he'd be on a stump in JXN or at the Nesh Fair or in the available main stream media screaming at the top of his lungs with regard to the freak child porners/perps pardoned by Haley Barbour.

Jim Hood doesn't give a coon dog shit with regard to victims. All's he doing is participating in the sinister cover-up. Hayle doesn't give a coon dog shit neither.


F*CK JIM HOOD AND HALEY BARBOUR AND THE MILITANT PERVERT HORSE THEY RODE IN ON.


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[Truthsayer]

Jim Enis Hood has filed to arsk the MS Supreme Court to re-hear the PARDON-GATE fiasco. He's left out all the child porn and predator pardon-nistas...wunder why???????????????????????
It's all pure politics. Hood doesn't give a coon dog shit about any REAL crime victims. Hood is looking for soundbites... some miserable attempt to get media attention to promote his own self-serving agenda.

Maybe he's looking for an appointment down the road??? Oh yeh... another serial trough feeder. Who woulda thunk it??????????

PPPHHHFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.